Lost 4.01, Spoilers
Feb. 1st, 2008 12:04 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I wish I could be the kind of fan who reviews in one concise, articulate, astute post, but I'm not, I'm me. And that means that I'll probably be spamming my flist with random bursts of squee and wtf? and off-the-wall observations til next week, when the cycle will start all over again. Y'all already know this about me, but I thought I'd remind you since it's been, like, forever since we had new Lost.
So, like I said, I was dreadfully spoiled before the ep, which is a habit I wish I could break but I know, realistically, I never will. Self-control is not my middle name. But two things shocked me, one in a very good way and one in a disturbing way.
1. The "undead" appearing OFF the island. (Not a manifestation of Smokey, then?) And Charlie wasn't just conjured up by Hurley's craziness (which, in my professional opinion *snort*, is more crazy-like-a-fox than true craziness -- he was PROTECTING himself by getting himself committed again), the other crazy dude saw him too. And though I thought that Charlie's reappearance in that setting was awesome TV, that's not what shocked me. What SHOCKED me was that Hurley was spooked by something in the convenient store (at which point I automatically resigned myself to not knowing what it was for a couple of years, if ever, because this is Lost, after all), but by the end of the ep, WE KNEW IT WAS CHARLIE! They raised and answered a big, mysterious, intriguing question and answered it in the same ep! I didn't walk away from my TV feeling like I was dying of thirst in a desert, like I so often do after a typical episode that fired up my curiosity and then left it unsatisfied. Kudos, writers!
2. Jack pulling the trigger on Locke. Yeah, it was badass. Yeah, I can see how Jack has been pushed to his limit -- past his limit -- by Locke. But when Jack finally gets ahold of himself (and he WILL, someday, won't he?), what will that knowledge do to his self-image? He's the healer, the miracle-worker, the doctor who took an oath to Do No Harm, and now he's Moses, he's the Rescuer, and yet he fully intended to kill one of his own people. Is Jack capable of expanding his vision of himself to include the capacity to deliberately take a life, and still live with himself? That's gotta play into the unravelling that we saw in the S3 finale.
If I were his therapist, I'd tell him that he needs a good dose of Star Trek and "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few," or whatever it was that Kirk or Spocke said. Jack totally believed that Locke was a threat to the lives of all of the survivors, and he was acting in what he believed was their defense as well as his own. But Jack is SO prone to self-hate and self-destruction, I'm not sure he'll see it that way.
Okay, I can't stand it. Will one of you who knows who the Oceanic 6 are, please email me and spill? Don't make me start naming names; I KNOW who you are and I shall hunt you down and tickle the information out of you if you make me. ;)
So, like I said, I was dreadfully spoiled before the ep, which is a habit I wish I could break but I know, realistically, I never will. Self-control is not my middle name. But two things shocked me, one in a very good way and one in a disturbing way.
1. The "undead" appearing OFF the island. (Not a manifestation of Smokey, then?) And Charlie wasn't just conjured up by Hurley's craziness (which, in my professional opinion *snort*, is more crazy-like-a-fox than true craziness -- he was PROTECTING himself by getting himself committed again), the other crazy dude saw him too. And though I thought that Charlie's reappearance in that setting was awesome TV, that's not what shocked me. What SHOCKED me was that Hurley was spooked by something in the convenient store (at which point I automatically resigned myself to not knowing what it was for a couple of years, if ever, because this is Lost, after all), but by the end of the ep, WE KNEW IT WAS CHARLIE! They raised and answered a big, mysterious, intriguing question and answered it in the same ep! I didn't walk away from my TV feeling like I was dying of thirst in a desert, like I so often do after a typical episode that fired up my curiosity and then left it unsatisfied. Kudos, writers!
2. Jack pulling the trigger on Locke. Yeah, it was badass. Yeah, I can see how Jack has been pushed to his limit -- past his limit -- by Locke. But when Jack finally gets ahold of himself (and he WILL, someday, won't he?), what will that knowledge do to his self-image? He's the healer, the miracle-worker, the doctor who took an oath to Do No Harm, and now he's Moses, he's the Rescuer, and yet he fully intended to kill one of his own people. Is Jack capable of expanding his vision of himself to include the capacity to deliberately take a life, and still live with himself? That's gotta play into the unravelling that we saw in the S3 finale.
If I were his therapist, I'd tell him that he needs a good dose of Star Trek and "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few," or whatever it was that Kirk or Spocke said. Jack totally believed that Locke was a threat to the lives of all of the survivors, and he was acting in what he believed was their defense as well as his own. But Jack is SO prone to self-hate and self-destruction, I'm not sure he'll see it that way.
Okay, I can't stand it. Will one of you who knows who the Oceanic 6 are, please email me and spill? Don't make me start naming names; I KNOW who you are and I shall hunt you down and tickle the information out of you if you make me. ;)
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Date: 2008-02-01 09:41 pm (UTC)I'm thinking there is a rift in the time space continuum..yes it sounds loopy, but you know I love my theories..and on another show I watch they have that...ghosts can come through..and be attracted to those who were left behind...or projections of those from other dimensions--those dimensions where they didn't die. And when that thing blew, it sort of made the rift open.
Or it could be that they are just screwing with Hurley.
Either way, it was sort of good to see Charlie again.
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Date: 2008-02-02 04:39 pm (UTC)Or a mafia gang. (Hey, maybe that's not too far wrong!)
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Date: 2008-02-02 12:40 am (UTC)I swear I told you who the 6 were...I'll email cause I know.
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Date: 2008-02-02 04:42 pm (UTC)You've been playing in the Haunted Mansion too much, my dear. ;)
We did discuss who the six were, but I thought it was just speculation.
Nosyinquiring minds just had to know for sure! Thanks, love.no subject
Date: 2008-02-02 01:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-02 04:46 pm (UTC)Oh, absolutely. And I wonder if the island itself is the sentient force.
Flailing off into the wild morally as well as physically?
That's the best description I've ever heard of Jack's behavior. He's just reacting, not acting "with aforethought," as they say. That way lies madness, as I suppose we've already seen.
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Date: 2008-02-03 01:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-03 01:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-03 03:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-03 06:02 am (UTC)And also--I do think that Jack will get himself together again. If not on island (round 1, shall we say), then on his next trip back, or whatever these flash-forwards are suggesting.
If I knew who the Oceanic 6 were I'd tell you! I promise! (especially because even if I tried to hide it I'd spill the MOMENT you tried tickling me...dangerous confession ;) ) Have you found out yet?
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Date: 2008-02-05 12:58 am (UTC)As for Jack, the show would end up being SOOOOO unsatisfying if, after they've shown us Jack's journey into madness (is that too strong? I wanna say I don't think it is!), they didn't show us his journey back. So yeah, I agree with you -- we'll see a stronger and wiser Jack by series' end, however it comes about.
I've been sworn to silence about the O6, but it could probably be tickled out of me if anybody wanted to try. *hides*
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Date: 2008-02-05 03:49 am (UTC)And I don't think madness is too strong a word at ALL! But I agree--they have to give us a journey back, or else his character becomes, I don't even know, meaningless? That's what I like about this show--we usually get the journey. His will be INCREDIBLE, I feel.
*smooches*
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Date: 2008-02-04 10:44 am (UTC)I agree on your interpretation... Jack must come to terms with the idea that he would've killed Locke, and it's probably going to hit him quite hard, later.
Finally, I liked the fact that we knew what Hurley saw, as well. A few answers, here and then, and in general the feeling that our curiosities are going to be satisfied, somewhat. It's more... relaxing, in a way. :)
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Date: 2008-02-05 01:06 am (UTC)Huh, I hadn't thought of that. Crazy!dude could be Dave, the Sequel, I guess. Argh, Lost is such a mindfuck, they're gonna land *me* in the loony bin!
Yeah, I don't think it'll hit Jack until later. Right now his mind is completely, utterly focused on rescue, I think to the point that he's lost all sense of right and wrong. He just wants to WIN, and winning, to him, means rescue. But as we've seen in the flashforwards, Ben was right to question what Jack has to go back for (not much, it seems), and when Jack realizes that and thinks about what he did to get there, well, we've seen what the sad result will be. That boy needs to quit saving everybody else and get some savin' of his own!
I've been hearing that answers are gonna be coming at us thick and fast now...and I'd say they've probably raised enough questions in the first 3 seasons that it'll take the next 3 to answer them all. I'm looking forward to the ride!